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By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

August 14, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Ms. Johnston, what exactly is wrong with you? To state, “What’s most interesting is that university officials overlooked what could be considered a much more serious transgression, in which Jarboe was found in illegal possession of a gun on high school property earlier this year.” Is preposterous, it makes no sense, and it just doesn’t fit. Jarboe committed a misdemeanor offense and Oklahoma, which almost had its storied football program wrecked by miscreants like Jarboe during the 1980s, told him that he would be gone if he did anything else that was inappropriate. That’s called progressive discipline, they gave him a second chance and he failed to live up to his agreement to keep his nose clean. When you write that, “The freestyle rap song was filled with the usual references to guns, violence, sex and otherwise profane lyrics that are consistent with popular “gangsta rap” music.”, you gloss over the fact that his so-called song made specific reference to killing police officers. Could you imagine what would have happened had Oklahoma allowed this miscreant thug, who is known to traffic in weaponry, to stay in school and, at some later date, he shot a police officer? I have never seen a picture of you, but I would venture that you are black and, even if not black, your blog content indicates that you are every bit as ignorant as Jarboe. Is it so hard to understand that one shouldn’t bring a gun to school or discuss killing a police officer or any other individual? Certainly in polite society within white America, these facts are well known. This isn’t a stupid stunt gone awry (like putting a chicken in a classroom overnight) and it isn’t an inappropriate reaction by Oklahoma. Rather, this is an ignorant miscreant reaping the consequences of his behavior. If black society and you don’t see that, then there is little hope that America can ever remediate the underclass that much of black America has become.

By Classy Black Woman

August 14, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

To Wyld Byll Hyltnyr:

I’ve never seen a picture of you, but I would venture to say that you are white and, even if not white, your post content indicates that you are ignorant and racist. The blogger’s race has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Your statement,

“Is it so hard to understand that one shouldn’t bring a gun to school or discuss killing a police officer or any other individual? Certainly in polite society within white America, these facts are well known.”

proves just how out of touch you are. The last time I checked, there were white people from “polite society within white America” who bring guns to school and carry out pretty heinous crimes with them. This type of behavior is not limited to black people. Furthermore, to make the statement that most of black society is “underclass” only adds to the case that you are an ignorant racist. Yes, there are classless black people, just like there are classless yellow, brown, and white people, one being you with the lack of class you portray in the comments that you make in generalizing an entire race of people. I think that Mr. Jarboe was irresponsible in his actions, both in bringing a gun to school and in rapping about the topics that he chose. Hopefully he has learned his lesson and will be more well behaved at the college that has chosen to accept him. Either way, his race has no bearing on whether this will happen. Stupid actions are stupid, regardless of the race of the individual conducting them. Next time, please keep your racist comments to yourself.

By KT

August 14, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

I think one of the biggest mistakes in this article is the term “private indescretions”. Nothing that goes online is private. Facebook, Myspace, Youtube - there all public websites. When you work for a company or attend a school, you represent that organization. Do something stupid and get caught by your boss and you’re probably going to get reprimanded. Do something stupid and broadcast it over the internet and that’s grounds for dismissal. You’re tarnishing an organization’s reputation, and the only way for them to save face is to immediately demonstrate that they do not condone your behavior by breaking ties with you.

Of course, if the previous poster’s comments are true that Jarboe was already on disciplinary probation, than the violent, profane rap was enough on its own to get him kicked out Youtube or no Youtube. He knew he was on probation and should’ve been erring on the side of caution. Jarboe was not a “victim of technology” as much as a victim of his own stupidity which is not really a victim at all.

By Classy Black Woman

August 14, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

BTW, according to the picture in the bio that you could have easily read had you looked to your left, the author of this blog is…WHITE!

By BigP

August 14, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Answer: It depends on the stunt, the circumstances, and the people judging. In the case of Jarboe I believe Oklahoma got it right.

To further support they got it right, his attorney comes out and suggests he is a “victim” of technology! Thats like saying Brian Nichols is a victim of guns.

Attorney actions in a lot of past cases cause employers to be extra cautious for fear of a lawsuit. Oklahoma can not afford to NOT publicly demonstrate a conservative stance on this in the event it be used against them someday.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

August 14, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

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By Barrack

August 14, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

ClassyBlackWoman - as a racist, you immediately went off on Wyld Byll Hyltnyr’s comments while ignoring the point he brought up.

No - white society does not include “usual references to guns, violence, sex and otherwise profane lyrics” in their songs (some occasionally, but mainly no). That is a black thing.

As you pointed out, he stated: “the underclass that much of black America has become”. You have a problem with that? Blacks have a MUCH higher percentage of men in prison, the black men who aren’t in prison are fathering babies (while not married) higher than any other groups.

Black society is a joke - crime and adultery are commonplace. You need to wake up and smell the coffee.

By JeremiahWright

August 14, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Kick all the racist gangster rappers out of sports. It will be good for every sport.

By Chris Salzmann

August 14, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

He should have been suspended for the gun violation and NOT the lyrics. Just my 2-cents. I think that political correctness has gone haywire. Everyone has the right to say and , yes, SING whatever lyrics they want. I’m white and upper-middle class.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

August 14, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

Classy Black Woman,

Spin it however you wish, but there would be no pathogen called “gansta rap” but for the behavours of a significant portion of America’s black community. Rap, Hip, Hop, or whatever you choose to call it, is a cancer originated by blacks that has begun to infest America’s white population. Yes, there are de classe white individuals, but one musn’t, and can’t, separate the epedemic level (ie, see ratio of young black men in prison to young black men in college)of problem individuals from the black community as a whole. The black community is broken in a way, and, most importantly, in a magnitude that does not apply to the white, yellow, or redt man. If you do not believe that, riddle me this, during any given school year how many guns are confiscated at Cedar Shoals high school and how many are confiscated at Milton High School. My views are not racist, but my views are deeply rooted in a sterotype of the black community and, unfortunately for the black community, the sterotypes have been earned by the behavior of the black community.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

August 14, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Chris, he was told no more behaviour that would embarrass the university and he accepted those terms to keep his scholarship. When he further embarassed the university, he was gone. Just because one has a right to free speech, it does not mean that all speech should be acceptable within society. He had a right to rap about cappin cops, but he also had the right to accept the consequences of his actions. Now, as they would say in the black community, he is cryin’ like sone lil’ b***.

By Just wondering

August 14, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

So if “70% of Black children are born to single parent households” and “now more than 50% of marriages end in divorce, and the top reason for divorce is adultery, tell me JW where exactly is adultery commonplace???

Crime: Blacks - ROBBERY, MURDER Whites - EMBEZZLEMENT, THEFT, FRAUD, CHILD MOLESTATION, (SERIAL/MASS) MURDER, BOMBINGS

Drugs: Blacks: CRACK EPIDEMIC, WEED Whites: METH EPIDEMIC, HEROIN, COCAINE, ECSTASY, OXYCONTIN, VICODIN, (any other Rx that will get you high).

Justice: Blacks: 5 crack rocks = 10 years prison Whites: 5 oz. cocaine = 5 years prison

Poor Blacks: “The Hood” Poor Whites: “The Trailer Park”

Yeah we know there are some issues in the Black community, we have a generation that has been ruined by pop culture. But now that I think about it, we saw this same thing in the 60’s with white folk.. who are now running Fortune 500 corporations and our country. Now that’s privilege!!

By Samuel

August 14, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

If stupid stunts could sink careers then no alumni of Georgia Tech would have a job.

By Myron

August 14, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

If a person is foolish enough to do something that could jepordize them so be it. You reap what you sow. This man is old enough to have common sense and to right from wrong. The trouble is that most people believe the lie that what is right or wrong is what you believe that it is. So that means that there is no real right or wrong. The foolish idea of situational ethics or “whatever feels good do it” is the main reason why that society is in such a huge mess.

By David

August 14, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

It’s pretty simple really, the same newspapers, often the same reporters, who called for OU’s death penalty in 1987 and the firing of Head Coach Barry Switzer for felonies on their campus (shootings, drug dealings, rape), are the same newspapers and reporters who now say Josh Jarboe, a known carrier of guns to public places and gangsta rapper who inelequently speaks of shooting cops and innocent civilians, should not be punished for his actions.

Truly the double standard in this scenario is not the University who punished a student athlete on probation, rather the hypocrytical media that wants to kick a University when things go wrong in their program as well as when the University takes actions that might keep those same acts from happening again.